Editing Norman Thomas (section)

==Speech Relevance ==
In '[[A Time For Choosing]]', Reagan quotes Thomas:
<BLOCKQUOTE>''Last February 19 at the University of Minnesota, Norman Thomas, six-time candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said, "If [[Barry Goldwater]] became President, he would stop the advance of socialism in the United States."''</BLOCKQUOTE>
Evidence of the speech may be available through a book entitled, ''The proceedings of the 1964 Minnesota Symposium "Great Issues In Government" February 16-19, 1964, Northrop Memorial Auditorium, University of Minnesota'' which appears to be available at one college library in Minnesota.  Norman Thomas spoke along side Robert Welch (founder of the John Birch Society) about the left and right of politics.  Below is the only section of Thomas' comments, as recorded in this book, which contained a reference to [[Barry Goldwater]]:
<BLOCKQUOTE>''I'm also talking about the greatest issue of all, the absolute necessity that we live under of avoidind war, that is to say, at least large-scale war. We dare not count on any small-scale war remaining small unless we can put it effectively under a police action. Our alliances make it likely that small wars will escalate into large. Now as a matter of fact, whenever I hear Senator Goldwater (I'm not sure how orthodox Mr. Welch thinks him; the last time I heard they didn't quite agree on some thinqs, especially when Mr, Goldwater is looking for votes - well, in any case) I should like Mr. Welch to tell us whether he agrees with the Senator that if we only stand firm, we can so-to-speak bluff or threaten the Soviet Union into doing our bidding; that we can manage our allies by saying, "Thus far and no farther. England, you stop that trade. We'll do what we please, but you do what we say or else we'll boycott you." "Do you, Mr. Welch really think that this kind of thing is-a foreign policy that gets anywhere except toward war?"''</BLOCKQUOTE>
Thomas ''may'' have made other comments about [[Barry Goldwater]], but are unrecorded or Reagan was mistaken.

From '[[Encroaching Control]]':
<BLOCKQUOTE>''A short time ago, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the [[socialism|socialist]] party ticket, gave a critique on the success of this program when he said the American people will never knowingly vote for [[socialism]], but under the name of [[liberalism]] the American people will adopt every fragment of the [[socialism|socialist]] program.''</BLOCKQUOTE>
This quote has been debunked as there are no known references to it being said by Norman Thomas.  There is a snopes.com article which actually attributes the sentiment (but not the specific quote) to famous author Upton Sinclair in a letter written ''to'' Norman Thomas.  The Sinclair quote is: ''The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to 'End Poverty in California' I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them.''